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35-521: [REDACTED] Look up indeterminacy in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Indeterminacy or underdeterminacy may refer to: Law [ edit ] Indeterminacy debate in legal theory Underdeterminacy (law) Linguistics [ edit ] Indeterminacy of translation Referential indeterminacy Philosophy [ edit ] Indeterminacy (philosophy) Indeterminism ,

70-492: A "decisive blow" to legal realism, by attacking the predictive theory of law that many realists had taken over from Holmes. Hart pointed out that if a law is just a prediction of what courts will do, a judge pondering the legal merits of a case before him is really asking, "How will I decide this case?" As Hart notes, this completely misses the fact that judges use legal rules to guide their decisions, not as data to predict their eventual holdings. Many critics have claimed that

105-402: A better way of predicting how judges would behave than relying on the reasons given by judges. A theory of law and legal reasoning that arose in the early decades of the twentieth century is broadly characterized by the claim that law can be best understood by focusing on what judges actually do in deciding cases, rather than on what they say they are doing. The central target of legal realism

140-523: A cohesive intellectual force in the 1920s, it drew heavily upon a number of prior thinkers and was influenced by broader cultural forces. In the early years of the twentieth century, formalist approaches to the law had been forcefully criticized by thinkers such as Roscoe Pound , John Chipman Gray , and Benjamin Cardozo . Philosophers such as John Dewey had held up empirical science as a model of all intelligent inquiry, and argued that law should be seen as

175-404: A left reply to Ronald Dworkin 's "right answer" thesis. In its strongest form it is an extreme version of legal realism . It argues that nothing is law until it has been promulgated by an official - either a judge or the legislature. For example, a statute that says "No person may smoke in a hospital" does not mean that "John Doe may not smoke in a hospital"; the second statement is the law only if

210-422: A legitimate authority declares so. This is because one cannot describe a legal statement as right or wrong without making a normative value judgment about what the law should be. In the 1990s the indeterminacy thesis came under heavy attack by liberal and conservative defenders of the rule of law , and the debate, though its mantle is in the process of being taken up by a new generation of scholars, has left

245-460: A liberal theory such as Dworkin's, the normativity of the judgment is one of reason rather than of value. This law -related article is a stub . You can help Misplaced Pages by expanding it . Legal realism Legal realism is a naturalistic approach to law ; it is the view that jurisprudence should emulate the methods of natural science ; that is, it should rely on empirical evidence . Hypotheses must be tested against observations of

280-486: A practical instrument for advancing human welfare. Outside the realm of law, in fields such as economics and history, there was a general "revolt against formalism," a reaction in favor of more empirical ways of doing philosophy and the human sciences. But by far the most important intellectual influence on the legal realists was the thought of the American jurist and Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. Holmes

315-416: Is a towering figure in American legal thought for many reasons, but what the realists drew most from Holmes was his famous prediction theory of law , his utilitarian approach to legal reasoning, and his "realist" insistence that judges, in deciding cases, are not deducing legal conclusions with inexorable, machine-like logic, but are influenced by ideas of fairness, public policy, prejudices, and experience. In

350-541: Is associated with American jurisprudence during the 1920s and 1930s, particularly among federal judges and lawyers within the Roosevelt administration . Notable jurists associated with legal realism include Felix Cohen , Morris Cohen , Arthur Corbin , Walter Wheeler Cook, Robert Hale , Wesley Hohfeld , Karl Llewellyn , Underhill Moore , Herman Oliphant and Warren Seavey, many of whom were associated with Yale Law School . As Keith Bybee argues, "legal realism exposed

385-455: Is defined by its focus on the law as it actually exists in practice, rather than how it exists in books. To this end, it was primarily concerned with the actions of judges and the factors that influenced processes of judicial decision making. As Karl Llewellyn argues, “[b]ehind decisions stand judges; judges are men; as men they have human backgrounds.” The law, therefore, did not exist in a metaphysical realm of fundamental rules or principles, but

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420-461: Is widely accepted that law is not, and cannot be, an exact science, and that it is important to examine what judges are actually doing in deciding cases, not merely what they say they are doing. As ongoing debates about judicial activism and judicial restraint attest, legal scholars continue to disagree about when, if ever, it is legitimate for judges to "make law", as opposed to merely "following" or "applying" existing law. But few would disagree with

455-528: The Civil War, this conception of adjudication as a form of social engineering had been widely shared by American judges, but in the late nineteenth century it had fallen out of favor. One of the aspirations of both Holmes and the realists was to revive it. For example, in his dissent in Southern Pacific Co. v. Jensen , Holmes wrote, "The common law is not a brooding omnipresence in the sky, but

490-818: The arguments of legal formalism . Some realists believe that one can never be sure that the facts and law identified in the judge's reasons were the actual reasons for the judgment, whereas other realists accept that a judge's reasons can often be relied upon, but not always. Realists believe that the legal principles that legal formalism treats as uncontroversial actually hide contentious political and moral choices. Due to their value-free approach, legal realists oppose natural law traditions. Legal realists contend that these traditions are historical and social phenomena and should be explained by psychological and sociological hypotheses, conceiving of legal phenomena as determined by human behavior that should be investigated empirically, rather than according to theoretical assumptions about

525-586: The articulate voice of some sovereign ... that can be identified," thereby arguing in favor of a pragmatic and more realistic approach to judicial interpretation of common law. Drawing upon Holmes and other critics of legal formalism, a number of iconoclastic legal scholars launched the legal realist movement in the 1920s and 30s. Among the leading legal realists were Karl Llewellyn , Jerome Frank , Herman Oliphant , Underhill Moore , Walter Wheeler Cook, Leon Green , and Felix Cohen . Two American law schools, Yale and Columbia, were hotbeds of realist thought. Realism

560-528: The belief that not all events are causally determined Deterministic system (philosophy) Underdetermination Physics [ edit ] Quantum indeterminacy Uncertainty principle Scientific determinism Other [ edit ] Indeterminacy (literature) a literary term Indeterminacy in computation (disambiguation) Indeterminate system Aleatoric music and indeterminacy in music Statically indeterminate Underdetermined system In set theory and game theory,

595-458: The correct use of legal concepts. Legal realism was primarily a reaction to the legal formalism of the late 19th century and early 20th century and was the dominant approach for much of the early 20th century. It succeeded in its negative aspiration of casting doubt upon formalist assumptions that judges always did what they said, so that it is often said that "we are all realists now." However, realism failed in its positive aspiration of discovering

630-435: The intellectual spotlight for the time being. The thesis can be criticised because the concept of legal mistake is recognised in a determinative theory of law. While such a mistake necessarily involves a normative judgment, it is not truly subjective. A positivist Hartian theory contends that this judgment is conventionally objective, because the rule of recognition fails to recognise the mistake as legally valid. According to

665-422: The law". If law is prophecy, Holmes continues, we must reject the view of "text writers" who tell us that law "is something different from what is decided by the courts of Massachusetts or England, that it is a system of reason that is a deduction from principles of ethics or admitted axioms or what not, which may or may not coincide with the decisions". Holmes introduced the "bad-man" theory of law: "[I]f we take

700-454: The law. Realism was treated as a conceptual claim for much of the late 20th century due to H. L. A. Hart 's misunderstanding of the theory. Hart was an analytical legal philosopher who was interested in the conceptual analysis of concepts such as "law." This entailed identifying the necessary and sufficient conditions for the use of the concept of "law." When realists such as Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. pointed out that individuals embroiled in

735-432: The legal system generally wanted to know what was going to happen, Hart assumed that they were offering the necessary and sufficient conditions for the use of the concept of "law." Legal theorists tend to recognize that the realists and the conceptual lawyers were interested in different questions. Realists are interested in methods of predicting judges' decisions with more accuracy, whereas conceptual lawyers are interested in

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770-429: The link to point directly to the intended article. Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indeterminacy&oldid=1061712814 " Category : Disambiguation pages Hidden categories: Short description is different from Wikidata All article disambiguation pages All disambiguation pages Indeterminacy debate in legal theory The indeterminacy thesis emerged as

805-488: The meaning of law in places such as legal opinions issued by judges and their deference to or dismissal of precedent and the doctrine of stare decisis , it stresses the importance of understanding the factors involved in judicial decision-making. In Scandinavia Axel Hägerström developed another realist tradition that was influential in European jurisprudential circles for most of the 20th century. Legal realism

840-441: The opening paragraph of The Common Law , he wrote: The life of the law has not been logic: it has been experience. The felt necessities of the time, the prevalent moral and political theories, intuitions of public policy, avowed or unconscious, and even the prejudices which judges share with their fellow-men, have had a good deal more to do than the syllogism in determining the rules by which men should be governed. The law embodies

875-426: The opposite of determinacy In biology, indeterminate growth of an organism See also [ edit ] Nondeterminism (disambiguation) Determinism (disambiguation) Indeterminate (disambiguation) Topics referred to by the same term [REDACTED] This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title Indeterminacy . If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change

910-498: The realists exaggerated the extent to which law is "riddled" with gaps, contradictions, and so forth. Other critics, such as Ronald Dworkin and Lon Fuller , have faulted legal realists for their attempt to sharply separate law and morality. Though many aspects of legal realism are now seen as exaggerated or outdated, most legal theorists would agree that the realists were successful in their central ambition: to refute "formalist" or "mechanical" notions of law and legal reasoning. It

945-514: The realists' core claim that judges (for good or ill) are often strongly influenced by their political beliefs, their personal values, their individual personalities, and other extra-legal factors. A statistical natural language processing method has been applied to automatically predict the outcome of cases tried by the European Court of Human Rights (violation or no violation of a specific article) based on their textual contents, reaching

980-462: The role played by politics in judicial decision-making and, in doing so, called into question conventional efforts to anchor judicial power on a fixed, impartial foundation." Contemporary legal scholars working within the Law and Society tradition have expanded upon the foundations set by legal realism to postulate what has been referred to as new legal realism . As a form of jurisprudence, legal realism

1015-510: The spirit of pragmatism , Holmes suggests that this is a useful way of laying bare the true meaning of legal concepts. The utilitarian or instrumentalist flavor of "The Path of the Law" also found favor with the realists. The purpose of the law, Holmes insisted, was the deterrence of undesirable social consequences: "I think that the judges themselves have failed adequately to recognize their duty of weighing considerations of social advantage." Before

1050-516: The story of a nation's development through many centuries, and it cannot be dealt with as if it contained only the axioms and corollaries of a book of mathematics. All these themes can be found in Holmes's famous 1897 essay, "The Path of the Law". There Holmes attacks formalist approaches to judicial decision-making and states a pragmatic definition of law: "The prophecies of what the courts will do in fact, and nothing more pretentious, are what I mean by

1085-424: The view of our friend the bad man we shall find that he does not care two straws" about either the morality or the logic of the law. For the bad man, "legal duty" signifies only "a prophecy that if he does certain things he will be subjected to disagreeable consequences by way of imprisonment or compulsory payment". The bad man cares nothing for legal theorizing and concerns himself only with practical consequences. In

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1120-535: The world. Legal realists believe that legal science should only investigate law with the value-free methods of natural sciences, rather than through philosophical inquiries into the nature and meaning of the law that are separate and distinct from the law as it is actually practiced. Indeed, legal realism asserts that the law cannot be separated from its application, nor can it be understood outside of its application. As such, legal realism emphasizes law as it actually exists, rather than law as it ought to be. Locating

1155-531: Was a mood more than it was a cohesive movement, but it is possible to identify a number of common themes. These include: In the 1950s, legal realism was largely supplanted by the legal process movement , which viewed law as a process of "reasoned elaboration" and claimed that appeals to "legislative purpose" and other well-established legal norms could provide objectively correct answers to most legal questions. In his 1961 book The Concept of Law , British legal theorist H. L. A. Hart dealt what many scholars saw as

1190-480: Was inseparable from human action and the power of judges to determine the law. In order to understand the decisions and actions of legal actors, legal realists turned to the ideas of the social sciences in order to understand the human behavior and relationships that culminated in a given legal outcome. American legal realists believe that there is more to adjudication than the "mechanical" application of known legal principles to uncontroversial fact-finding in line with

1225-501: Was legal formalism: the classical view that judges don't make law, but mechanically apply it by logically deducing uniquely correct legal conclusions from a set of clear, consistent, and comprehensive legal rules. American legal realism has aptly been described as "the most important indigenous jurisprudential movement in the United States during the twentieth century". Although the American legal realist movement first emerged as

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