The relativist fallacy , also known as the subjectivist fallacy , is claiming that something is true for one person but not true for someone else, when in fact that thing is an objective fact. The fallacy rests on the law of noncontradiction . The fallacy applies only to objective facts, or what are alleged to be objective facts, rather than to facts about personal tastes or subjective experiences, and only to facts regarded in the same sense and at the same time.
13-470: [REDACTED] Look up subjective in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Subjective may refer to: Subjectivity , a subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery, as opposed to those made from an independent, objective, point of view Subjective experience , the subjective quality of conscious experience Subjectivism ,
26-460: A controversial or otherwise compromised position—saying, in effect, that "what is true for you is not necessarily true for me," and thereby attempting to avoid having to mount any further defense of the position—one might be said to have committed a fallacy. The accusation of having committed a fallacy might rest on either of two grounds: (1) the relativism on which the bogus defense rests is so simple and meritless that it straightforwardly contradicts
39-600: A philosophical tenet that accords primacy to subjective experience as fundamental of all measure and law Subjective case , grammatical case for a noun Subject (philosophy) , who has subjective experiences or a relationship with another entity Subjective theory of value , an economic theory of value A school of Bayesian probability stating that the state of knowledge corresponds to personal belief Subjectivity (journal) , an academic journal See also [ edit ] Subjectivist fallacy Subjunctive Objective (disambiguation) Topics referred to by
52-538: A relativist fallacy—by any interpretation—requires distinguishing between things that are true for a particular person, and things that are true about that person. Take, for example, the statement proffered by Alice: "More Americans than ever are overweight." One may introduce arguments for and against this proposition, based upon such things as standards of statistical analysis, the definition of "overweight," etc. The position answers to objective logical debate. If Bob answers Alice, saying "That may be true for you, but it
65-464: Is different from Wikidata All article disambiguation pages All disambiguation pages subjective [REDACTED] Look up subjective in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. Subjective may refer to: Subjectivity , a subject's personal perspective, feelings, beliefs, desires or discovery, as opposed to those made from an independent, objective, point of view Subjective experience ,
78-451: Is not true for me," he has given an answer that is fallacious as well as somewhat meaningless in the context of Alice's original statement. Conversely, take the new statement by Alice, who is 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m) tall, "270 pounds (120 kg) is grossly overweight." Bob, who is 6 feet 6 inches (1.98 m), and weighs an exact, well-conditioned 270 pounds (120 kg), replies, "That may be true for you, but it
91-406: The law of noncontradiction ; or (2) the defense (and thus the fallacy itself) is an example of ad hoc reasoning. It puts one in the position of asserting or implying that truth or standards of logical consistency are relative to a particular thinker or group and that under some other standard, the position is correct despite its failure to stand up to logic. Determining whether someone has committed
104-411: The link to point directly to the intended article. Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subjective&oldid=1211090831 " Category : Disambiguation pages Hidden categories: Short description is different from Wikidata All article disambiguation pages All disambiguation pages Subjectivist fallacy There are at least two ways to interpret
117-443: The question against an earnest, intelligent, logically competent relativist. It is itself a fallacy to describe a controversial view as a "fallacy"—not, at least, without arguing that it is a fallacy. In any event, it does not do to argue as follows: This is an example of circular reasoning . The second step includes an argument from fallacy . On the other hand, if someone adopts a simple relativist stance as an ad hoc defense of
130-416: The relativist fallacy: either as identical to relativism (generally), or as the ad hoc adoption of a relativist stance purely to defend a controversial position. On the one hand, discussions of the relativist fallacy that portray it as identical to relativism (e.g., linguistic relativism or cultural relativism ) are themselves committing a commonly identified fallacy of informal logic—namely, begging
143-417: The same term [REDACTED] This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title Subjective . If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article. Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subjective&oldid=1211090831 " Category : Disambiguation pages Hidden categories: Short description
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169-431: The subjective quality of conscious experience Subjectivism , a philosophical tenet that accords primacy to subjective experience as fundamental of all measure and law Subjective case , grammatical case for a noun Subject (philosophy) , who has subjective experiences or a relationship with another entity Subjective theory of value , an economic theory of value A school of Bayesian probability stating that
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