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29-469: [REDACTED] Look up New Ireland in Wiktionary, the free dictionary. New Ireland may refer to: Geography [ edit ] New Ireland (island) , large island in the state of Papua New Guinea New Ireland Province , administrative division of Papua New Guinea Politics [ edit ] United Ireland , the proposed unification of

58-523: A "new Ireland": At Charles Haughey 's insistence, the unitary state was presented as the most desirable option, which Fitzgerald later rued as "ritual obeisance". Unionist historian Graham Walker writes, "The Forum Report did reflect a more considered appreciation of the Unionists' distinctiveness and their attachment to the Union, but it was also replete with time-worn assumptions and stereotypes, and

87-653: A Forum open to non-nationalist parties, though in the event only nationalist parties joined. The SDLP's participation persuaded Fianna Fáil to join. The forum was open to "all democratic parties which reject violence and which have members elected or appointed to either House of the Oireachtas or the Northern Ireland Assembly". From the Assembly, only the SDLP participated; Sinn Féin were excluded, and

116-678: A head when Fianna Fáil, then in opposition party , opposed the 1985 Agreement as incompatible with the Forum's conclusions, while the other three Forum parties supported the Agreement. The SDLP's view of the "National Question" became the default position of Irish political parties from then and through the Northern Ireland peace process . The SDLP's loss of ground to Sinn Féin in the 1985 local elections in Northern Ireland

145-740: A partisan historical narrative." Before the Forum's report was issued, the Ulster Unionist Party presented a discussion paper of its own entitled Devolution and the Northern Ireland Assembly: The Way Forward (usually called The Way Forward ). This described the Forum thus: The McGimpsey brothers, members of the Ulster Unionist Party, felt the Forum's report totally ignored their contribution. On 2 July 1984, Jim Prior , Secretary of State for Northern Ireland commented on

174-589: A recognition by the British government of the need to include the Republic in the political process: Stephen Collins has said that Irish anger at Thatcher's "out, out, out" speech caused her to soften her tone in future negotiations, which made possible the 1985 Anglo-Irish Agreement. The relatively non-partisan approach of the forum influenced the National Forum on Europe in 2001 to address Ireland and

203-591: A short-lived territory proclaimed by the Castle Hill convict rebellion in Australia Business [ edit ] New Ireland Assurance, part of the Bank of Ireland Group Topics referred to by the same term [REDACTED] This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title New Ireland . If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to

232-514: Is different from Wikidata All article disambiguation pages All disambiguation pages New Ireland Forum In the aftermath of the 1981 hunger strikes , " physical force Irish republicanism " represented by Provisional Sinn Féin was gaining support in Northern Ireland at the expense of the "constitutional nationalism" represented by the Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP). Garret FitzGerald became Taoiseach after

261-762: The Alliance Party and Unionist parties stayed away. From the Oireachtas, the three main parties — Fianna Fáil , Fine Gael , the Labour Party — joined. Independent TDs and Senators were not eligible for membership. The SDLP was abstentionist in the Unionist-dominated Northern Ireland Assembly, which meant its representatives were able to devote more time to the Forum. Speaking in the House of Commons debate on

290-510: The Bank of Ireland Group Topics referred to by the same term [REDACTED] This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the title New Ireland . If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article. Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Ireland&oldid=1180753424 " Categories : Disambiguation pages Place name disambiguation pages Hidden categories: Short description

319-787: The Irish Civil Service ; the salary of the secretary of each of the four participating parties was also paid from the Department of the Taoiseach . The first session was held in Dublin Castle on 30 May 1983 and the final session on 9 February 1984. There were 11 public sessions, 28 private ones, and visits to Northern Ireland in September 1983 and Great Britain in January 1984. The forum's steering group, comprising

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348-531: The Republic's 1981 general election and announced a "constitutional crusade", including a reframing of the state's attitude to Northern Ireland. He lost power quickly but regained it in the November 1982 election . Before the previous month's election to the reconstituted Northern Ireland Assembly , John Hume had proposed a "Council for a New Ireland" in the SDLP manifesto. Fitzgerald persuaded Hume to accept

377-554: The European Union . The 1998 Good Friday Agreement , the key stage in the Northern Ireland peace process , provides for a united Ireland if a majority in Northern Ireland agree; it does not provide specifics of the process or settlement. Irish jurist Richard Humphreys in a 2009 book suggests that the New Ireland Forum would provide a model for "nationalist Ireland negotiating and agreeing, so far as possible,

406-600: The Forum report and The Way Forward . This report informed the British government's view leading up to the Anglo-Irish Agreement of 1985. Richard Sinnott suggests the Forum report gave Fitzgerald a mandate in the negotiations that produced the Agreement. Charles Haughey was criticised in the aftermath of the Forum Report's publication for appearing to put a more traditionalist interpretation of its conclusions than other parties. This eventually came to

435-736: The Forum report on 2 July 1984, Hume explained the impetus for the Forum and why the SDLP wasn't participating in the Assembly: ...under the Conservative Government of 1974 we accepted the terms laid down and negotiated with the Unionist parties and the British Government. We accepted power sharing and went into the Assembly. We were then kicked out following the Ulster Workers Council strike. When

464-634: The Forum's report in the House of Commons: In October 1984, in a Seanad debate on the Forum's report, Mary Robinson regretted that "the range of contributors invited to make oral presentations to the Forum was too narrow", and remarked that "witnessing the Catholic Bishops and their representatives being questioned by politicians at the Forum may have marked a modest beginning to a healthy separation of Church and State in Ireland." She endorsed

493-613: The Forum. The Democratic Socialist Party was ineligible as its sole TD, Jim Kemmy , had lost his seat in the November 1982 election. These two parties organised a separate "alternative Forum" with the Alliance Party, the Irish Independence Party , and others. There were 27 members and fourteen alternates. Colm Ó hEocha was appointed chairman of the Forum. It had a secretariat staff of 17, seconded from

522-581: The Labour Government invited us to the Northern Ireland Convention, we again accepted the terms laid down by this House and were willing to negotiate, but again the Unionists said that in no circumstances were they prepared to share power. In 1979, when the right hon. Member for Spelthorne ( Sir H. Atkins ) was Secretary of State, we again accepted the terms and negotiations, but again the Unionists refused to share power. When

551-546: The Troubles Éire Nua , an Irish republican political agenda History [ edit ] New Ireland (Maine) , an abortive 18th-century British Colony in modern-day Maine and New Brunswick New Ireland, a proposed renaming of Prince Edward Island , led by then lieutenant governor Walter Patterson in 1770 New Ireland, a short-lived territory proclaimed by the Castle Hill convict rebellion in Australia Business [ edit ] New Ireland Assurance, part of

580-460: The chairman and the four party leaders, met 56 times in total. Submissions were invited in press advertisements; 317 were received, and 31 submitting groups and individuals were invited to make oral presentations to the forum. Separately from its final report, the forum published three reports on the economic cost of Partition of Ireland since 1920, and of the Troubles since 1969; it also commissioned reports from external consultants and experts on

609-539: The cost and logistics of a united Ireland . The Forum published its report on 2 May 1984. Its historical treatment heavily criticised the Government of Ireland Act 1920 , and the alleged short-term thinking of successive British governments' policy on Northern Ireland. It estimated the high financial cost of the Troubles since 1968, while also acknowledging the high cost of implementing any new political arrangements. It outlined three possible alternative structures for

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638-431: The free dictionary. New Ireland may refer to: Geography [ edit ] New Ireland (island) , large island in the state of Papua New Guinea New Ireland Province , administrative division of Papua New Guinea Politics [ edit ] United Ireland , the proposed unification of the island of Ireland as a sovereign state New Ireland Forum , reported in 1984 with recommendations for ending

667-469: The intended article. Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Ireland&oldid=1180753424 " Categories : Disambiguation pages Place name disambiguation pages Hidden categories: Short description is different from Wikidata All article disambiguation pages All disambiguation pages New Ireland [REDACTED] Look up New Ireland in Wiktionary,

696-454: The island of Ireland as a sovereign state New Ireland Forum , reported in 1984 with recommendations for ending the Troubles Éire Nua , an Irish republican political agenda History [ edit ] New Ireland (Maine) , an abortive 18th-century British Colony in modern-day Maine and New Brunswick New Ireland, a proposed renaming of Prince Edward Island , led by then lieutenant governor Walter Patterson in 1770 New Ireland,

725-466: The political parties in the Republic of the need to engage with Ulster unionism and "North-South relationships" rather than ignoring them in favour of the "East-West" relationship with the British government in London. Dermot Keogh called it "one of the most important intellectual exercises in self-definition since the foundation of the state." On the other hand, it has been seen to have led indirectly to

754-422: The present Secretary of State announced his initiative, before the elections even took place both the Unionist parties made it clear that there were no circumstances in which they were prepared to share power, so the whole purpose of the Assembly was null and void before it began. We were not prepared to put the people of Northern Ireland through another charade. The Workers' Party decided not to become members of

783-561: The view of political scientists Kevin Boyle and Tom Hadden, who stated: Oliver MacDonagh identified in the report three new developments for Irish nationalism: an unequivocal rejection of not only violence but "even psychological coercion"; an argument for unity based on "basic common interests of North and South" rather than "the horrid rhetoric of rights and righteousness"; and an acknowledgement that "the Ulster Unionist identity

812-473: Was attributed in part to the "out, out, out" response to the Forum it had championed. Journalist Brian Feeney suggests that Sinn Féin's "active abstention ", where those elected in the 1982 Assembly elections acted as local spokespeople in the media, was more effective than the SDLP's policy of sending its representatives to the Dublin forum. The Forum has been seen retrospectively as a first acknowledgement by

841-471: Was both fundamentally different and a permanent condition". On 19 November 1984, at a press conference at 12 Downing Street after a British–Irish summit in Chequers , UK prime minister Margaret Thatcher dismissed the report's proposals: This became known as the "out, out, out" speech. Lord Kilbrandon established a committee that produced an unofficial report attempting to reconcile elements of

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