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The Tampa Cardinals were a barnstorming football team, that played pick-up games, led by future Pro Football Hall of Famer , Jim Thorpe in 1926. During the time, the team was also billed as the St. Petersburg Cardinals and as Lena Vistas . The team was originally organized to play a New Year's Day exhibition against the Chicago Bears of the National Football League in what would be Tampa’s first professional football game. However, the team would later pick up four other games while in Florida . The team has also been referred to as Thorpe's Cardinals .

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49-620: After the 1925 season , Thorpe formed a team, composed primarily of his teammates from the NFL’s Rock Island Independents , to play several games throughout Florida . In a 1926 New Year's Day football exhibition, the Tampa Cardinals played against the Chicago Bears led by Red Grange . The game itself was billed as a clash of old vs. new, with Grange, the rising star, taking on Thorpe, the aging legend. During

98-622: A disappointing fan turnout. The team finished its tour of Florida with a 1-4-1 record. 1925 NFL season The 1925 NFL season was the sixth regular season of the National Football League . Five new teams entered the league: New York Giants , Detroit Panthers , Pottsville Maroons , Providence Steam Roller , and a new Canton Bulldogs team. The Kenosha Maroons folded, with the Racine Legion and Minneapolis Marines mothballing. Twenty teams competed in

147-564: A first year NFL team, played an exhibition game against a team of former Notre Dame stars including the famous " Four Horsemen ". The game was played at Philadelphia's Shibe Park , which was within the protected territory of the Frankford Yellow Jackets , who were playing a league game just a few miles away at Legion Field. On three occasions prior to the game, Carr reportedly warned the Pottsville management not to play

196-663: A group headed by future Hall of Famer Curly Lambeau applied for and was granted the Green Bay franchise. The 1925 Chicago Cardinals-Milwaukee Badgers scandal followed four years later. In December 1925, four high school students played for the Milwaukee Badgers in a game against the Chicago Cardinals . Carr responded by imposing stiff penalties. The Milwaukee club was fined $ 500 and given 90 days within which to "dispose of all its club assets at which time

245-670: A hospitalization lasting several weeks. Carr's funeral was held at the Holy Rosary Church in Columbus and was attended by leaders of the NFL. Carr was buried at St. Joseph Cemetery, located approximately 10 miles south of Columbus in Lockbourne, Ohio . Following Carr's death, Chicago Bears owner George Halas paid tribute to Carr's steadying influence and said: Professional football's remarkable growth and popularity today

294-650: A late-season meeting between them, 21–7. But the Maroons scheduled a game against a team of University of Notre Dame All-Stars in Philadelphia (and winning 9–7) on the same day that the Frankford Yellow Jackets were scheduled to play a game in the same city. Frankford protested, saying that it was violating their protected territory rights. Although NFL president Joe Carr warned the Maroons in writing that they faced suspension if they played in Philadelphia,

343-690: A machinist for the Panhandle Division of the Pennsylvania Railroad and a sports writer for a Columbus newspaper. While working for the Panhandle Division, he founded the Famous Panhandle White Sox baseball team in approximately 1900. He also revived the Columbus Panhandles football team in 1907, manning the team with railroad employees. The Panhandles became one of the inaugural members of

392-461: A scoreless tie. On January 16, the team's fourth game was a 3-0 win over a Sarasota team of collegians constructed by former Florida Gator Robbie Robinson . Thorpe provided the only score on a 40-yard drop kick field goal. Another match-up against Millville/Haven Villa was arranged for January 20 in Winter Haven to be played at the local high school stadium. In front of just 500 spectators,

441-414: A team that had been formed in 1900 or 1901 and disbanded in 1904. He secured players from the railroad shop where he worked. The core of Carr's Panhandles teams were six Nesser brothers who worked at the shop and were excellent athletes. To save on expenses, the players, who were railroad employees, used their passes to ride the train for free and practiced during the lunch hour on the railroad yards. Over

490-454: Is not the result of the efforts of any one owner or group of owners. It is due entirely to Mr. Carr's fair and impartial administration of its affairs and his steadfast belief in the game. In June 1939, Halas proposed that the NFL's most valuable player award, which had been approved by the league's directors at their annual winter meeting, be named the Joe F. Carr Memorial Trophy . Halas' proposal

539-569: The Ohio State Journal , one of the three major newspapers in Columbus at the time. He wrote about all sports, but his boxing stories were especially popular. While working for the newspaper, he continued to also work as a machinist for the railroad. In 1900, Carr organized a baseball team made up of employees of the railroad's Panhandle Division. The team, known as the Famous Panhandle White Sox , played in

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588-554: The American Professional Football Association (APFA), which was renamed the National Football League (NFL) in 1922. From 1921 until his death in 1939, Carr served as president of the NFL. He oversaw the growth of the league from its origins, principally in small or medium-sized cities in Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois into a national league with teams in major cities. During his tenure, many of

637-551: The Millville Big Blue , a successful independent club from New Jersey that was headed up by Guy Chamberlin . Chamberlin was a friend and former teammate of Thorpe during their time with the Canton Bulldogs . Despite being scheduled to appear, Thorpe did not take the field during the game. The exact reason for his absence is not clear. The Cardinals/Haven-Villa lost the game, 28-7. A rematch against Millville

686-571: The National Football League from 1921 until 1939. He was also one of the founders and president of the American Basketball League (ABL) from 1925 to 1927. He was also the promotional director for Minor League Baseball 's governing body from 1933 to 1939, leading an expansion of the minor leagues from 12 to 40 leagues operating in 279 cities with 4,200 players and attendance totaling 15,500,000. A native and lifelong resident of Columbus, Ohio , Carr worked in his early years as

735-803: The Philadelphia Arena and Madison Square Garden to install professional basketball teams in those facilities. Carr returned to professional baseball in 1926 as president of the Columbus Senators , a minor league club playing in the American Association . He remained president of the Senators until early 1931, when the club was sold to the St. Louis Cardinals , and Carr was replaced by future National Baseball Hall of Fame inductee Larry MacPhail . In January 1933, Carr

784-543: The Pro Football Hall of Fame established in 1962). Carr was one of the inaugural inductees into the Helms Pro Football Hall of Fame. In July 1962, a board was established to select up to 20 individuals as the inaugural inductees into the newly established Pro Football Hall of Fame . The sport editor of The Pittsburgh Press at the time predicted: "Its first choice could well be Joe Carr,

833-408: The 1900 Census, the family changed its name to "Carr". Carr was educated at St. Patrick School and later St. Dominic's School, both in Columbus. He left school at age 16 and became employed as a machinist. By 1899, Carr was working as a machinist for the Panhandle Division of the Pennsylvania Railroad . In approximately 1900, Carr was also hired as an assistant sports editor and sports writer for

882-582: The APFA was formed in 1920, Carr's Panhandles played in the league's inaugural season. The 1920 Panhandles team played only one home game and compiled a 2–7–2 record. At the annual meeting of the APFA held in Akron, Ohio , on April 30, 1921, Carr was elected as the organization's president. He was re-elected president in January 1922, and he held that position for 18 years until his death in 1939. Carr moved

931-500: The APFA's headquarters to Columbus, drafted a league constitution and by-laws, gave teams territorial rights, developed membership criteria for the franchises, and issued standings for the first time, so that the APFA would have a clear champion. Carr also began cleaning up other problems. By 1925, he introduced a standard player's contract, fashioned after the ones being used in pro baseball, so players couldn't jump from one team to another. Carr also declared that players under contract from

980-495: The Bears the next day, and appeared in his first professional game on November 26. Two weeks later, Ernie Nevers signed a professional football contract for $ 50,000. To help ease tensions and promote the professional game in the college circles, Carr established a rule prohibiting college players to sign with professional teams until after their class had graduated. These decisions gave the NFL credibility and much needed support from

1029-764: The Capital City League and the Saturday Afternoon League in Columbus for several years. According to the Chicago Tribune , Carr's Panhandle club "gained a reputation in semi-professional ranks throughout the country." In 1907, Carr began a long association with the sport of football. He obtained permission from the Panhandle Athletic Club to reorganize the Columbus Panhandles football team,

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1078-712: The Cardinals lost, 38-0. A fourth game between the two clubs was played the next day at Adair Park in Lakeland , the Cardinals' final game in Florida. Thorpe's team took to the field under the banner of the Lena Vistas, while Chamberlin's team was billed as the Eastern States All-Stars. The Cardinals lost yet again, 24-0, to Millville. The team then ended its season due a lack of interest that led to

1127-691: The East End of Columbus, Ohio . His father, Michael Karr, was a shoemaker who was born in Ireland in 1841 and immigrated to the United States in 1864. His mother Margaret Karr was born in New York to Irish immigrant parents. Carr had five older siblings, Bridget, James, John, Mary, and Michael, and a younger brother, Edward. In the late 1880s, Carr's father became a sewer contractor, and in 1898 his mother died at age 58. At some point prior to

1176-400: The Maroons claimed that Carr had previously approved the game during a telephone call, and played anyway. In response, Carr fined the club, suspended it from all league rights and privileges (including the right to play for the NFL championship), and returned its franchise to the league. In 2003, the NFL decided to again examine the case regarding the 1925 championship. In October of that year,

1225-407: The NFL during the 1925 season. Controversy surrounds who actually won the 1925 NFL Championship. Officially, the Chicago Cardinals are listed as the 1925 NFL champions because they finished with the best record; however, many Pottsville fans at the time claimed that the Maroons were the legitimate champions. The Maroons and the Cardinals were the top contenders for the title, with Pottsville winning

1274-500: The NFL voted 30–2 not to reopen the case, with only Philadelphia and Pittsburgh , the league's two Pennsylvania-based teams, voting in favor. Thus, the Cardinals are still listed as the 1925 NFL champions. Had the current (post-1972) system of counting ties as half a win and half a loss been in place in 1925, the Maroons would have won the championship with a win percentage of .833, while the Cardinals would have finished runner-up at .821. * The Pottsville Maroons were suspended from

1323-527: The NFL's premier franchises were established, including the New York Giants , Pittsburgh Steelers , Philadelphia Eagles , Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins . Called the "Father of Professional Football", Carr was one of the 17 inaugural inductees into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1963. Carr was born Joseph Francis Karr on October 23, 1879, at his parents' home in the Irish neighborhood on

1372-616: The National Football League had reduced its membership to ten teams with nine of the ten teams located in major cities that also had Major League Baseball teams. Only Green Bay, Wisconsin , lacked a major league baseball team. By placing teams in big cities, Carr gave the NFL gained the foundation of stability it needed to survive during the Great Depression . In 1925, the Pottsville Maroons ,

1421-701: The Pro Football Hall of Fame. He was one of six officials selected "for helping to guide the pro sport from its original role as a stepchild of the college game to its modern popularity". He was described in a biographical portrait released by the Hall as the "Father of Professional Football" for his organizational work in the early days of professional football. Other inaugural inductees included George Halas , Red Grange , Jim Thorpe , Bronko Nagurski , Curly Lambeau , and Bert Bell . In 1979, George Halas wrote that professional football in its infancy needed

1470-543: The ban with vigor. During the 1921 APFA season , two or three college players from Notre Dame played for the Green Bay Acme Packers under assumed names. The incident resulted in the players losing their amateur status and being barred from further college football participation. In January 1922, Carr responded with the severest possible action, kicking the Packers out of the APFA. A few months later,

1519-409: The colleges and universities from across the country. Carr faced numerous challenges as the league's president. One of the principal challenges was expanding the league to a national scope. In 1920, 11 of the league's 14 teams were located in Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, including franchises in small cities such as Akron , Decatur , Rock Island , Canton , Hammond and Muncie . Carr believed that

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1568-404: The expansion of Minor League Baseball to 40 leagues operating in 279 cities in 40 states employing 4,200 players and drawing an attendance in 1938 totaling 15,500,000. Carr married Josephine Marie Sullivan on June 27, 1911, at St. Dominic's Church in Columbus, Ohio. They had two children, Mary Agnes, (born October 13, 1913) and Joseph Francis Jr. (born October 1, 1915). In February 1939, Carr

1617-628: The first attempt to create a major professional basketball league in the United States. At the ABL's organizational meeting, held in Cleveland in April 1925, Carr was elected as the ABL's president and secretary. In three years as the league's president, he helped establish clubs in Brooklyn, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, Rochester, Cleveland, Fort Wayne and Chicago, and negotiated with the operators of

1666-487: The game Grange rushed for a 70-yard touchdown, as the Bears notched a 17-3 victory at Plant Field . After the game Thorpe and the core of his Cardinals team remained in Florida to play a few barnstorming games under various other names. The Cardinals were hired to supplement the line-up of the Haven-Villa of Winter Haven , a local club playing out of Winter Haven . The Villas were set to square off on January 7 against

1715-570: The game, "under all penalties that the league could inflict". Ignoring Carr's warnings, the game went on as scheduled. However, the Maroons stated that Carr knew of the game and had allowed it to take place. For this act, the Pottsville Maroons were fined $ 500 and had their franchise forfeited; as a result, the team was stripped of their NFL title, which was given to the Chicago Cardinals. However Carr's decision and handling of

1764-460: The league in December, resulting in the Chicago Cardinals being named the NFL champions. NFL league president Joseph Carr chose an all-star team for 1925, including players from Red Grange 's tour. Joseph Carr Joseph Francis Carr (October 22, 1879 – May 20, 1939) was an American sports executive in football , baseball , and basketball . He is best known as the president of

1813-645: The league needed to model itself after Major League Baseball with teams in the country's largest cities. In 1922, the APFA changed its name to the National Football League , reflecting Carr's goal of building a professional football league that was national in scope. Another challenge was fostering stability in the league's membership. In 1921, the APFA had 21 teams. Through the 1920s, NFL franchises were constantly setting up and then folding. From 1920 through 1932, 19 teams lasted one year and 11 teams lasted two years. During his tenure as league president, Carr sought to recruit financially capable owners to operate teams in

1862-421: The little man from Columbus, O., whose retiring nature was matched by his fiery belief in the future of professional football. Mr. Carr was the NFL's first president, a position he held until his death, and much of the league's success can be traced back to the solid foundation he laid." In January 1963, the inaugural group of inductees was announced with Carr being one of "the first 17 immortals" to be voted into

1911-565: The management must retire from the league." The Cardinals were fined $ 1,000 for their prior knowledge of the violation, and Cardinal player Art Foltz was temporarily banned from the league for life for having "induced the boys to play". The issue arose again when Red Grange , star halfback of the University of Illinois football team, signed with the Chicago Bears . Grange played his final college game on November 21, signed with

1960-533: The nation's largest cities. He oversaw the establishment of successful teams in the nation's largest cities, including the following: At the same time, many of the teams in smaller cities either moved or were dissolved altogether. One of the casualties was Carr's original team, the Panhandles. They were renamed the Tigers in 1923, and played for four more seasons before dissolving after the 1926 season. By 1937,

2009-477: The next 13 years, the Panhandles became known as a traveling team , as Carr saved money on travel expenses and stadium rental by playing mostly road games. In 1921, the Fort Wayne Journal called the Panhandles the "most renowned professional football aggregation in the country." Carr also continued his association with professional baseball while running the Panhandles, serving for several years as

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2058-445: The previous season could not be approached by another team unless first declared a free agent , thus introducing the reserve clause to professional football. In the early 20th century, college football was the dominant version of the sport, and professional teams would sometimes pay college players to play for them, often under assumed names. The practice was considered questionable ethically, resulting in taint being associated with

2107-417: The professional game. In order to remove the taint, and to engender peaceful relations with the college game, Carr made it one of his first goals as league president to impose a strict ban of the use of college football players. Indeed, at the same meeting at which Carr was elected president, the APFA adopted a rule prohibiting teams from using players who had not completed their college course. Carr enforced

2156-508: The secretary/treasurer and later president of the Ohio State League , a minor league baseball circuit. As early as 1917, Carr was one of the leading advocates of a plan to develop a national professional football league. Sources are not in agreement as to what role, if any, he played in the formation of the American Professional Football Association (APFA), which later became the National Football League (NFL). However, once

2205-433: The situation is still being protested by many sports historians, as well as by the people of Pottsville, Pennsylvania , and controversy still lingers about who actually won the 1925 NFL Championship, since the Maroons had earlier beaten Chicago and were actually awarded the league championship before they were suspended. In 1925, Carr was one of the moving forces behind the formation of the American Basketball League (ABL),

2254-682: Was adopted by the NFL the following month. The NFL Most Valuable Player Award was named for Carr starting in 1939 and continuing through the 1946 season, after which it was discontinued. The Touchdown Club of Columbus also presented a Joe F. Carr Trophy to the NFL Player of the Year annually from 1955 to 1978. In 1950, the Helms Athletic Foundation established the Paul H. Helms Pro Football Hall of Fame (not to be confused with

2303-514: Was hired as the promotional director for the National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues, the governing body for Minor League Baseball . He was also given a seat on the organization's executive committee and charged with developing "a program to rehabilitate minor league baseball." In 1931, prior to Carr taking over, there were 12 minor leagues, and many of them were in serious financial trouble. By 1939, Carr had overseen

2352-533: Was soon scheduled. For this game the Cardinals headed to St. Petersburg, Florida where they were billed as the St. Petersburg Cardinals. However, this time the Millville team had been hired to represent Haven-Villa. The game was held at the St. Petersburg Kennel Club on January 14 in order to accommodate an anticipated large crowd; however, the game drew just 300 fans. This time the Cardinals held Millville/Haven-Villa to

2401-466: Was unanimously reelected as president of the NFL, this time for a 10-year term. Carr reported at the time that the NFL attendance in 1938 had increased by 14% to 937,167 in 25 league games. Three months after his reelection, on May 20, 1939, Carr suffered a heart attack and was taken to a Columbus hospital where he died several hours later. Carr had a prior heart attack in September 1937, resulting in

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